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TOP STORIESALPHA FEMALE: The crisis might keep female bankers working21 November 2008By Anneke de Boer COMMENTS90% of the women I've come across in Investment Banking have been over aggressive and highly unsympathetic or generally not nice women to put it kindly... Read all comments »A recent article in BusinessWeek drew attention to the fact that many female MBAs aren’t making it to the top. Why is this? Is there still a glass ceiling? Is the ceiling in fact made of reinforced concrete? Or is it that many women are opting out?
Clearly, there are going to be variations industry by industry, and I won’t profess to be an expert on many career paths. From my experience – solely in banking – I feel that many women eventually opt out rather than fight to get to the top. Unsurprisingly, I feel this is even more common for mothers than for women without children.
Female MBAs who go into finance are classic Type A over-achievers (as are many female MBAs more generally). They give 100% to whatever they do and are perfectionists. They want success and they want to achieve that success now. They also generally have husbands who are equally obsessive. At business school, many of these women not only received their MBA but also their MRS. Almost one third of the women in my business-school class married men from business school.
When both partners have a banking lifestyle, achieving a stable home environment is tough, particularly when children are involved. As you progress in seniority through a bank, the hours get more manageable but they are still long. You may not be working 24/7 any more but you are still working 7am to 7pm. It is an unpredictable, deal-driven, client-service business.
Senior executives still receive calls at random hours of the day and night. (My favourite was at 2am, from a client asking if we needed a meeting then or if I thought it could wait until the morning.)
Many banks do have family-friendly policies. I had understanding colleagues. We had free emergency crèche places, good parental leave policies, and a myriad of other things of which I didn’t fully take advantage.
With working husbands in the same industry, many female bankers could afford to make choices. Going from two incomes to one was a challenge, but possible. In theory, the man could have opted out. But, in reality, this was rare.
The current downturn and the flood of employees out of the market has changed all this. With jobs in financial services suddenly looking a lot less stable and lucrative, giving one up to spend time at home may start to seem a luxury. On one level, this is a shame – stable families and children benefit enormously from having one parent at home. But on another level, it could increase the proportion of senior women in an industry which desperately needs them.
COMMENTSVP, Investment Banking / M & A, Fri 21 Nov 08Please stop with these useless articles.. I hate positive discrimination for females, in my team I usually reject all females unless they have the same skills.
jonnybgood, Fri 21 Nov 0890% of the women I've come across in Investment Banking have been over aggressive and highly unsympathetic or generally not nice women to put it kindly...I wouldn’t want them as my mother...so may be they are better staying single and married to their work which generally they are quite good at…except HR of course (they are just time wasters and business stoppers)... This hardly applies to other industries but I suspect every firm has a few... Add your comment »Mikey, HR & Recruitment, Fri 21 Nov 08It pains me to see women aping the very worst aspects of male behaviour. Excessive working, blind bride hyper comptitiveness and aggression. Its no wonder kids nowadays feel neglected nowadays.
truestory, Debt / Fixed Income, Fri 21 Nov 08The women I've worked with who were in very senior positions got there on merit - perhaps women who hit the "concrete" ceiling do so because they're simply not good enough. Add your comment »Laydee, Hedge Funds, Fri 21 Nov 08Mikey - what's wrong with a competitive woman? Do you like your ladies nice, docile and servile by any chance? In case you haven't noticed, investment banking is a competitive industry. The docile ladies are usually married to the bankers who don't respect them. Add your comment »IBMD, Investment Banking / M & A, Fri 21 Nov 08chicks in high finance have always been a novelty for me and I have used them to my best advantage. You guys remember a few years ago a semi-hot chick whose MD called her "tethered goat" on a deal? Sheesh what a cry baby. Add your comment »Mikey, HR & Recruitment, Fri 21 Nov 08No Laydee,
Laydee, Hedge Funds, Fri 21 Nov 08Hi Mikey,
Mikey, HR & Recruitment, Fri 21 Nov 08No Laydee, that's my point, men have the monopoly on those attributes i believe and women merely ape their behaviour to try and get ahead which rarely works.
Johnny, Debt / Fixed Income, Sat 22 Nov 08Does anyone really believe that men and women are hugely different..? I believe that men and women are ultimately pretty similar - women are greedy, competitive, selfish, unmotherly; Men are loving, nagging, selfless and nurturing... And vice versa. We're all just humans..? Are we (men) jealous of women being more powerful than us?
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